A month or so ago I read a book called Nightwatch and its sequel Daywatch. I think you guys would dig them...kind of a grown up Potterverse in a way. They got me thinking...especially Daywatch. In the books there are essentially two groups of magic users. Simply put people are categorized into the Daywatch (those who use magic for personal gain) and the Nightwatch (those who use magic to help others). As you can imagine the lines are frequently ascew. At first I thought if this where the Potterverse it would end up the same with Slytherin on one side and everone else on the other. After reading the second book, which tells it's story through the eyes of the "personal gain" faction, I'm not so sure. The Daywatch is more inclusive and is about personal freedom. These traits are ulitmately what Hufflepuff is all about. Granted that the way the majority of the Daywatch goes about things is geared towards Slytherin such as stealing humans lifeforce to power your own spells, I do believe that if a division came we would have Huffies and Slytherins on the same side. To me these two houses have alwasy been the most opposite of each other...Slyth with its rigid requirements and Huff with it's nonrequirements! But when you look at the core values that both seem to have, which is free will, they are the same. Huffies want the free will to be whatever they want whereas Slyth wants the free will to do whatever they want. Scary to think that they would end up together.
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    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 3:10 PM
    Those sound like some interesting books. Do you remember the author?
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      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 3:50 PM
      They are Russian, so I do....but I'd never be able to spell it! so, here ya go:

      www.amazon.com/Night-Watc...ef=pd_bbs_2
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        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 5:27 PM
        Thank you. I'm going to check them out.
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          Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:58 PM
          Daywatch is better than Nightwatch, but you should read them in order. There's also a third one, Twilightwatch, which I haven't read yet. I was alternating between those and the Dark Tower series, but it was just too much darkness. I thought I had better take a break and read some cheery stuff for a bit. There will be a forth one out in spetember.


          SO, what do you about huff-n-slyth together fighting the "good" fight?
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            Sun, May 25, 2008 - 9:22 AM
            There are movies for both DayWatch and Nightwatch, although really they are just one story lines from the 1st Book, primarily.

            They are also currently translating FinalWatch, into English (or at least that is the rumor around my friends heads).
            They are great books. I totally loved them.
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              Sun, May 25, 2008 - 2:56 PM
              I'll add an emphatic 'me too'. :) I've read all three -- Twilight Watch was good too. I'm anxiously waiting for Final Watch to make it here. Someone told me it's due in the US sometime around July-Aug, '08.

              I remember as I was reading the Night Watch books, I thought of Harry Potter as well - probably because both the Potter books and the Night Watch books gave us well-realized worlds that are mostly hidden from humans/muggles, but share some of the same spaces as the human/muggle world.

              The movies were fun too, quite pretty to look at, but a little hard to follow. I think this was mostly because they mushed together a couple of the story lines. Still, definitely worth seeing.
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    Mon, May 26, 2008 - 12:08 AM
    The key to understanding the nature of Slytherin and Hufflepuff lies in divining the methods of their particular founders, as well as the nature of their totem animals.

    Slytherin's emphasis is more on political maneuvering; not what you know but who you know. Witness Draco Malfoy's early statement to Harry in the first book, "You'll find that some wizarding families are better than others." Furthermore, his insistence on special treatment and favoritism from his teachers, and his use of Crabbe and Goyle as hired muscle. Disregarding his thuggish attitudes, Malfoy could have been a medieval nobleman; his father certainly acted like one.

    The Slytherin emblem of the snake is a misleading one. Too many people make the association of the serpent along the lines of Judeo-Christian theology, but the symbolism of the snake is much, mouch older than that. In Ancient Greece the snake was a symbol of healing, a tradition that is still carried on today with the medical caduceus, now known worldwide. In China the snake is a symbol of good luck and fortune, and is celebrated in the form of the dragon, considered by many to be the ultimate symbol of the reptile family. The dragon is also considered a symbol of power , and dragon and snake tattoos traditionally anoint the biceps or legs of athletes in the Far East.

    Hufflepuff by contrast has a much more workmanlike attitude toward its members. The Sorting Hat's song in Sorcerer's Stone commends Hufflepuffs for their diligence, sense of fair play, and the fact that they are "unafraid of toil". Consider, too, that the ghost of Hufflepuff is that of a friar, a divine order dedicated not only to ecclesiasticism, but also plain food, hard living, and toiling in the pursuit of a noble goal. Cedric Diggory was the epitome of a Hufflepuff: despite winning a Quidditch match against Gryffindor (POA), he declared that he wanted to call it off when he found out Harry had been hurt. A year later (GOF), after Harry has told him about the dragons, he repays Harry's kindness by giving him a clue about the egg, and then later nobly offers Harry the award he himself wants so desperately because he feels that Harry has been more fair-minded. Hufflepuffs care more about the form than about the glory. To those of a more mercenary bend, Hufflepuffs would seem foolish; hence, the Hufflepuff reputation for being--as Hagrid calls them in Sorcerer's Stone--"a lot o' Duffers".

    The Hufflepuff mascot is a badger, and there is a great deal of wisdom in the animal. The badger, despite its somewhat harmless appearance, is in fact a fierce creature, capable of fighting off animals many times its own size, including bears! Badgers are omnivorous, as well as being highly prolific and widespread and are found all over the world. They are popular characters in folklore, as well as other literature including Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl, Brian Jacques' Redwall series, and of course The Wind in the Willows, by Kenneth Grahame.

    Most interestingly, some badgers are actually immune to snake venom! Being burrowing creatures by nature, this immunity serves the mammals well when combating vipers in their own dens, and allows badgers to safely devour snakes that might otherwise threaten their families. Hufflepuffs also seem to be immune to the machinations of Slytherins, for if you go back through the books, you will notice that the Slytherins never directly challenged the Hufflepuffs, nor do the two of them appear in combat in any of the Harry Potter movies to date. The only direct infighting that I have been able to find was when several Hufflepuffs came to Harry's defense at the end of OotP, when Harry is ambushed by Malfoy and his cohorts, and is rescued by several DA members. In that particular battle, the Slytherins are soundly defeated.

    Do Slytherins love Huffies, as you say, Supreme Mugwump? Not that I can see, though they certainly seem to stay out of their way!

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